Still not cool to say yes

Even though more than half of California’s population voted to uphold the traditional definition of marriage it still is not acceptable to stand up and say you are in favor of its passage.

Anyone have any theories as to why?

At first I thought it was people being polite not dancing in the street over the victory, but rather respecting the fact that some people lost and were hurt by the outcome.  Later I conclude it was fear of being persecuted for taking a stand.  But honestly I am not sure.  There are still many actively making a stand on traditional marriage but it is not helping them win in a popularity contest.  Other ideas?



  1. waltzinexile said

    I need more information to venture a guess. Can you clarify what you mean by “the fact that some…were hurt by the outcome”? Do you mean that their feelings were hurt?

  2. busywithconviction said

    Yes I mean peoples feelings were hurt.

  3. waltzinexile said

    I think you’re drastically misunderstanding the impact of a “yes” vote, then, if you really think the extent of this is that “people’s feelings were hurt.” Taking rights away from people by popular vote, regardless of the legality of the process, is not the right thing to do. This isn’t name-calling. This isn’t the 7th grade, and this isn’t about POPULARITY. You didn’t hurt anyone’s feelings. YOU RELEGATED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO SECOND CLASS STATUS. You assumed a position of moral superiority by FIAT because you’re scared to death someone in your child’s school might say “hey, now, we don’t make sweeping judgmental statements about gay people.” Did you ever stop to think about the feelings of the kids who already live with two mothers or two father and go to school with your kid, and the effect of gagging the teacher from speaking in defense of those kids’ families? Did you ever wonder if perhaps no one is dancing in the streets because maybe, just maybe, some of you who voted “yes” actually realize the gravity, the inhumanity, of what you’ve done and are ashamed? Or perhaps it’s finally dawned on some of you that setting a legal precedent to take rights away from minority groups by popular vote could likely backfire? What if the next majority sets its sights on YOUR civil rights? Will that be all right with you?

  4. busywithconviction said

    Sure saying feelings were hurt does not necessarily encompass the impact of this vote. But the bottom line is people are hurt, mad, outraged…whatever you want to call it.

    A title is what is being debated here. Same sex partnerships already have rights in California.

    I also think that the religious rights civil rights are greatly impacted by this debate. Being religious I already feel that the current minority has “set its sights on MY civil rights.” And are already successfully taking them away.

  5. busywithconviction said

    There are two sets of morals here. That is a huge part of the conflict. One or the other group is going to force their moral code on the other.

    I hope regardless of Proposition 8 that our school systems will encourage our children not to be bullies. For that matter parents should be teaching their kids to be nice, regardless of what someone looks like or does. Lets say my friend smokes. My two year old already can tell they smell different then us. But we will be their friend regardless of the fact I find smoking to be a bad thing. I am teaching my two year old that smoking is bad. But that the people that smoke are not bad people. The same applies to this whole gay thing. I will teach my kids gays/lesbians are not bad people, but their choice to act out on their sexual desires is. That even though we don’t agree with a persons life choices we can and will be nice to everyone.

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